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Simpo
04-16-2008, 02:07 PM
Hi Redliners!

As few of you knows, I'm going back to school in September, as a electrical engineer at Gatineau's Cegep. I'm a total electrical n00b. Then why did you apply there simon?

-I'd like to get over a challenge.

The reason I started this thread (keeping it serious and pertinent) is to slowly create a solid guide from the basic and climbing steps by steps. Building the guide as clear as possible with only the right infos.

Using Acrobat or another software, my project would contain information from the basic of an 4 cycle engine up to sensors info, on board diagnostic (OBD) and climbing further up to ECU functions and later on, ecu tuning, while respecting copyrights and the sources of information.

Since Redliners is mostly a Honda forum and with the extremely huge sources of information on the Web, I'd consacre the guide to Honda (starting with at least )

You guys probably say to yourself, Honda-Tech is there and you'd get all your questions answered. Well I find that Honda-Tech is too huge and some infos are hard to find as I was working on my buddy's Delsol and was spending 30 min to a hour looking for infos. Another thing that fuels my motivation to create this project is mostly because the infos given on Honda Tech is sometimes unclear or hard to understand, some threads are left uncomplete and people ask question, which are often unanswered.

I'd work hard as possible to respect English grammar :lol:

Michael, what do you think about this idea? Would you be willing to lend some of your time to answer some of my questions?

Where did you start?

BrettR I know you're busy!!!!!!!!! Your help would be appreciate whenever I get stuck somewhere. Could I count on you sometimes?


I'm testing water at this point, I'm unemployed too at this moment and I'd be willing to stop wasting my time posting useless comments :roll:

I'm open to suggestions and I hope I'll receive some feedback from your guys. Having something solid like this on the board could be interessing.

Cheers,
Simon

BrettR
04-16-2008, 03:15 PM
Step 1. Don't blow it up.

Jdc
04-16-2008, 03:52 PM
Step 2. Blow it up as a life lesson.

BrettR
04-16-2008, 04:03 PM
Step 2. Blow it up as a life lesson.

Step 3: Pick up pieces, try again.

It's not rocket science. You can't learn it from a write up on the internet, you need to get out there doing actual tuning where you can measure the difference in the changes you make. Ass dyno's don't count.

So buy all the gear, find a car to play with and hit the dyno/track.

Turbo Tin Can
04-16-2008, 04:09 PM
Their are parametres you use, but no cookie cutter recipe. Each car is entirely different.

Simpo
04-16-2008, 05:47 PM
Thanks for the attention 8)

I really really want to put together every single thing a n00b should know about cars (mainly honda.. to begin with).

Exemple: what's OBD-0 vs OBD-1 vs OBD-2. New sensors? new wiring?

What are the new element in OBD-1 vs OBD-0. New sensors, ECU infos. How is the data treated? (ie.. From HT: Air/fuel mixture are calculated faster in OBD-1 vs OBD-0, and I have an EF... I want to convert to OBD-1 myself, without buying the conversion harness because I want to enjoy this "easy" hp gain. There's a bunch of connector pin that I need to link with others. I'm not sure what I see when I check the Pin-out thread on HT.

What are the component inside a ECU? I open a ECU and I see a bunch of things. What can I do with a ECU? Ecu chip, what is that? What are the tuning software. I know about TurboEdit, which is free (YEaH!! 8) ) but I'm not sure how to use it.

I'm not a retard but I find that searching on Honda-tech and reading what I see is something difficult. I'd like to be able to comprehend all this stuff, step by step by writting my new "knowledge" in a file and have it here to everyone to use and be able to learn from it, for free!

I have a OBD-0 sohc zc and a obd-1 d16a vtec head I want to put together. I'm not sure about the "compatibility" and i know it needs some stuff done to be able to run my mini me without issues!

Briefly Brett... I'd like to be good like you and hackish :oops: and its sometime hard for me (frenchy fucker) to understand everything without help from others.

Redliners could benefit from the guide I'd like to build, slowly with time.

Turbo Tin Can
04-16-2008, 06:40 PM
Tuners won't teach u how to tune, its just bad business. Make friends over at HMT.

04-16-2008, 09:28 PM
A lot of tuning comes from getting the experience. First you need a good solid understanding of the basics, then the theory behind what's happening. Finally you need to understand what you're doing and what that funny noise was etc. I can try to answer a few questions but I'm pretty effing busy until the snow returns.

-Michael

Simpo
04-16-2008, 11:35 PM
A lot of tuning comes from getting the experience. First you need a good solid understanding of the basics, then the theory behind what's happening. Finally you need to understand what you're doing and what that funny noise was etc. I can try to answer a few questions but I'm pretty effing busy until the snow returns.

-Michael

Right on! That was what I was expecting from you, business is back on track now!!

Before I even start writting down something I must ask you guys if you have any reading you'd consider important?

What is the basics for you?

I took one year at La Cité in mechanic (worst place to take a mech course.. you pay to get a paper, thats all IMO). The rest was brought to me by playing with my car, reading on boards and asking questions to pertinent people with true answers and not something I heard from my friend's cousin who works at Walmart as lube tech (bad exemple :oops: )

I'll be reading what you guys post here, any links to good infos. From there I'll start writting down few things and have it posted here for you to see!

ArIGaTo

mightymousetech
04-17-2008, 12:01 PM
Thanks for the attention 8)

I really really want to put together every single thing a n00b should know about cars (mainly honda.. to begin with).
.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerosearch

frank2003
04-17-2008, 08:02 PM
A good place to start would be http://www.xenocron.com . They have a couple of good guides for tuning ecu's.

If you ever wanna help out, i should be tuning my ECU myself pretty soon. If i fuck it up, then ill send it somewhere, but in the meantime, ill take a good shot @ it 8)

Here is the link to the tech section : http://www.xenocron.com/links.php?page=writeups

Simpo
04-17-2008, 10:49 PM
Sick! Thanks bud!

I've been busy today and tomorrow will be the same thing!

Mike always keep me in for hours when I'm just there to pick up parts! :shock: Get back to my car and its been 2.5 hours LOL!


Merci la calice! :mrgreen:

blackfoot
04-20-2008, 10:05 PM
take a motive power technician program at algonquin.. 3 semesters.. and all your questions will be answered... but be sure to stick with it.. everything gets better on the 3rd term

Simpo
04-21-2008, 09:44 AM
Im getting a job today or tomorrow for sure. This is will have to be on stand by, like everything else lol. $ time

Simpo
04-28-2008, 06:45 AM
so fucking busy :(