i got a question for you honda turbo ppl

[turbo6967]

WEll i need too know what would be the ideal turbo for a h22a
with lowerd compression



any takers pm me plz!


thanks

-stephan

[frank2003]

depends how much power you are looking to make and what kind of pistons you are going to drop in it.

[turbo6967]

its stock motor
and around 360 to 380

[frank2003]

so you want to take your 200hp motor and with stock components , try to push it in the 360-380 area??? im not sure about this but i think youll have to build your motor(pistons,rods,, etc) to support that becuase that almost double its power

[ImPuLsIvE.ca]

so you want to take your 200hp motor and with stock components , try to push it in the 360-380 area??? im not sure about this but i think youll have to build your motor(pistons,rods,, etc) to support that becuase that almost double its power

Indeed. You won't get more than 7-8PSI (roughly 270-280whp) of boost reliably without building the bottom end of an H22 engine. By this I mean sleeves, forged pistons, rods, etc..

As for a good turbo for a BUILT H22, look at getting a GT35R. They're a little slow to spool, but make a hell of a lot of power with that engine.

[PDP]

try SS auto chrome hahahahahahah

[boostedd15b]

holset hx35
ebay they go for around 200-300 usd
come off 99+ dodge rams.

thats whats going on my crx if it dont sell soon :twisted:

you cant push more than 300hp on stock internals.
wiseco makes pitons for frm (stock sleeves) compatability
you can build a block for under $2000 and be able to give it as much boost as youll be able to handle

I've tuned a good number of these. For whatever reason I haven't done that many in Montreal this year but last year I did a large number of boosted H22's. The power numbers are misleading because they pull like freight trains (let's not forget it is a honda engine) so the 300 whp which isn't that uncommon on a conservative amount of boost is much qucker than let's say a 300whp B series. I made 336whp on a stock JDM H22 on 10PSI so if you translate that to BHP it'snot ouside the 360-380 range. It's on its third year now.

-Michael

[turbo6967]

I've tuned a good number of these. For whatever reason I haven't done that many in Montreal this year but last year I did a large number of boosted H22's. The power numbers are misleading because they pull like freight trains (let's not forget it is a honda engine) so the 300 whp which isn't that uncommon on a conservative amount of boost is much qucker than let's say a 300whp B series. I made 336whp on a stock JDM H22 on 10PSI so if you translate that to BHP it'snot ouside the 360-380 range. It's on its third year now.

-Michael

so your saying on a stock h22 at 10psi i cant push 300whp and your on your third year boosted on the same stock motor?

if soo lol sounds good to me!

What I'm saying isn't the same as what some in the thread are saying. Running an H22 to 10 psi does have its risks and I normally recommend a maximum of 8. Even at 8 PSI these things are surprisingly quick to most.

-Michael

[kstanzel]

I run at 5, in a 93 prelude, and with a crushed ass downpipe the car still trapped at 104, which i was pretty impressed by. Once i get the money for a tune and my downpipe fixed I plan on running 7-8, so should pull pretty good.

[turbo6967]

cause the person was telling me he can lower the compression in the motor so i can push 12psi and not risk blowing the engine


how is that possible?

[frank2003]

new pistons??...

cause the person was telling me he can lower the compression in the motor so i can push 12psi and not risk blowing the engine


how is that possible?

depends what kind of budget he's talking about ...

he might just raise the head, and drop the compression

doesn't change the fact that the bottom end is gonna fail first ... don't half ass it, you'll end up paying more in the long run

[turbo6967]

k so what am i looking at to completly rebuild the buttom end

There is no such thing as just a generic "build the bottom end". What do you want it to do? What are you willing to spend. If budget were no consideration I'd be putting in a set of carillo rods and CP pistons with all the trimmings. I wouldn't expect that motor to cost less than $10k. However back on planet Earth budget is very often the decision-maker.

I like to go with sleeves, scat rods and CP pistons with ARP studs. I've had no trouble rocking 500whp with this combination. I've had a few in the Montreal area consume transmissions rather fast but they seem strong enough to hold together and that's with a conservative customer tune. I was considering build an H22 for myself so we can see what an aggressive tune does. For a complete build like mine you'd expect to spend around $3k.

-Michael

[Digital]

You should sign up on http://www.honda-tech.com and read up on the turbo threads for the Prelude.

The stock H22 crankshaft is very well balanced from factory and can handle a very good amount of boost reliably. They have pages and pages full of info on this topic. Just read through it and it'll give you a much better understanding of what's involved.

[turbo6967]

holset hx35
ebay they go for around 200-300 usd
come off 99+ dodge rams.

thats whats going on my crx if it dont sell soon :twisted:

you cant push more than 300hp on stock internals.
wiseco makes pitons for frm (stock sleeves) compatability
you can build a block for under $2000 and be able to give it as much boost as youll be able to handle

does anyone know where i can get one of those Holset HX35 Turbo's

[civic_lover87]

holset hx35
ebay they go for around 200-300 usd
come off 99+ dodge rams.

thats whats going on my crx if it dont sell soon :twisted:

you cant push more than 300hp on stock internals.
wiseco makes pitons for frm (stock sleeves) compatability
you can build a block for under $2000 and be able to give it as much boost as youll be able to handle

does anyone know where i can get one of those Holset HX35 Turbo's

on ebay apparently, I even underlined it for ya :D

[turbo6967]

k well if your gonna be a clown i dont feel like ordering this shit from ebay paying shipping fees when i can get one in town for the same price

[turbo6967]

and what internals should i do if i want to reach atleast 400hp

[Zenar]

k well if your gonna be a clown i dont feel like ordering this shit from ebay paying shipping fees when i can get one in town for the same price
I think your the clown... You asked people told you where to look. And yet your still not listening to them. Why should we do all the work for you?
If you don't feel like paying fee's maybe your doing the wrong project... It's going ot cost you money, and good money to do it right.

[turbo6967]

i will pay to do it right ive just had alot of trouble threw ebay with the past stuff that ive bought it taking 1 1/2 month to get here fucking ups/ebay and on top of that they charge shipping fees threw the rouf do you think there might be a place in town.... IF not i will half to purshace it from ebay... but i was asking if there was a place in town just simply because i want to avoid ebay.... sorry for not putting "in town"

400whp you're looking to drop about $3500 on the engine build including all the new items like sparkplugs, timing belt, tensioner conversion, studs, pistons, rods, FMS, RMS, PIM gasket, bearings and cam seals.

-Michael

[turbo6967]

400whp you're looking to drop about $3500 on the engine build including all the new items like sparkplugs, timing belt, tensioner conversion, studs, pistons, rods, FMS, RMS, PIM gasket, bearings and cam seals.

-Michael

does this also include (scat rods and CP pistons with ARP studs) plus sleeving it?

I have lots of experience with the CP pistons but none with the scat rods. I have a set on the way so when I see them I'll be confident enough to recommend for or against them. Otherwise eagles would probably be fine.

-MiCHAEL

[turbo6967]

bump

[turbo6967]

but does your price include
rods, pistons, sleeving, ect ect...