Mazda 3 Fanatics

[SilverTurtle]

Convince me

Why should i take a mazda 3 over a civic. what more does it offer.

isnt it a ford engine (aka crappy)

some people say its bad on gas.


what does it offer over a civic


and im talking 4dr automatic transmition daily driver.

[Tweaked]

Convince me

Why should i take a mazda 3 over a civic. what more does it offer.


Well, it's not a civic. That's a pretty damned good start.

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

why would you buy an automatic?

[DVS Talon]

Here you go!

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details. ... id=6206682 (http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=313304&adid=6206682)

[b18c]

Convince me

Why should i take a mazda 3 over a civic. what more does it offer.


Well, it's not a civic. That's a pretty damned good start.


Incorrect.

[aznterrorist]

Convince me

Why should i take a mazda 3 over a civic. what more does it offer.


Well, it's not a civic. That's a pretty damned good start.

I'm guessing you've never driven the new civic? But I can't hate on the 3 either. Love the styling and the interior.. but also heard its a Ford engine.. so I don't know if thats a good thing or a bad thing :?

[m3axela]

its not a civic lol plain and simple and i own a mazda 3 no serious problems with in since owning t\it in 2005 till now...

[mightymousetech]

I am a Honda/Acura technician. I drive a Mazda3. Actually, there are 3 techs here that drive Mazda3's, and I don't know of a single tech that drives a new Civic or CSX.

How is that for an endorsement for the 3? :shock:

[SilverTurtle]

Here you go!

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details. ... id=6206682 (http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=313304&adid=6206682)

WOW, at that price, it probebly has 300k on it

[DVS Talon]

Here you go!

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details. ... id=6206682 (http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=313304&adid=6206682)

WOW, at that price, it probebly has 300k on it

Call 'em up! I'm looking at something from the same place maybe we can score a deal...

[SilverTurtle]

[quote="DVS Talon":3klz723u]Here you go!

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details. ... id=6206682 (http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=313304&adid=6206682)

WOW, at that price, it probebly has 300k on it

Call 'em up! I'm looking at something from the same place maybe we can score a deal...[/quote:3klz723u]

its too far, im not going to TO.

plus im not buying a beamer, baby step.

[SilverTurtle]

I am a Honda/Acura technician. I drive a Mazda3. Actually, there are 3 techs here that drive Mazda3's, and I don't know of a single tech that drives a new Civic or CSX.

How is that for an endorsement for the 3? :shock:


reason? why did u choose the 3 over a civic

[wing]

I am a Honda/Acura technician. I drive a Mazda3. Actually, there are 3 techs here that drive Mazda3's, and I don't know of a single tech that drives a new Civic or CSX.

How is that for an endorsement for the 3? :shock:

Yup that's a pretty good endorsement. Or how about this. I had $35k to spend on a car, I review cars therefore drive pretty much everything from shit boxes to uber luxury barges.... and I bought a Mazda3.

Interior style, fit and finish, driving enjoyment, price, practicality. All winners.

[Andre]

New Civics look like spaceships from the far way planet of Ooooogly.

[DVS Talon]

[quote="DVS Talon":36uh1ppn]Here you go!

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details. ... id=6206682 (http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=313304&adid=6206682)

WOW, at that price, it probebly has 300k on it

Call 'em up! I'm looking at something from the same place maybe we can score a deal...

its too far, im not going to TO.

plus im not buying a beamer, baby step.[/quote:36uh1ppn]

BOOOOOOO!!!!

T-dot is the place to go!!! You knowzzzzz this maaaannn!!!

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

i'm going to ask again, why an automatic

[boostd4drteg]

I have driven civics and tes for 14 years.....I have an 07 mazda 3 luxury package now. HID, climate control, 6 disc deck, heated leather, pearl white, tilt teliscopic steering wheel, ice cold a/c electric power steering etc etc . LOADED for $100 less a month then my 04 civic si 4dr. I have never been happier with the ride from a stock car. Wife loves it, I love it. If honda doesnt wake up they will never see my money again.

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

how are these mazdas going to hold their value considering everyone has one?

[AzNKiD]

how are these mazdas going to hold their value considering everyone has one?

So you think the Civic's high resale value is because of their rarity? :roll:

[Andre]

As long as there's a demand re-sale will stay solid.

[kerraz]

In my experience of proudly owning a 2006 Civic LX, I have to say I am becoming disappointed.

We have had problems with the rear wheels developing [what we think is] camber wear problems. The tires go out of round after only a few thousand km. We have 40,000 on it, and are on our 3rd set of rears. (They are showing the problem with less than 3000km)

We love the spaceship, err, car, but this ongoing crap is seriously affecting our pride of ownership.

If you are car shopping why not consider an 08 Lancer. :wink:

(We also own an 08 Lancer GTS which has become our DD, while the civic sits waiting for Honda to fix the possible camber issue.)

[Andre]

We have 40,000 on it, and are on our 3rd set of rears. (They are showing the problem with less than 3000km)

:shock:

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

k,k,k 3 drivers, i don't to get the panties bundled up but even if there's a demand and even if they age great.. you can count 30 them in any parking lot in ottawa right now. that's alot of 3's to be traded in to dealers and alot to be privately sold.. so even if your car is in top shape and your asking a fair price it's tough to sell it when there's 1000's of them to choose from.

i didn't say the honda was rare... it's just, it's still a honda... and the 3's a ford

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

[ We have 40,000 on it, and are on our 3rd set of rears. (They are showing the problem with less than 3000km)


either you have a couple bodies in the trunk or your son saw tokyo drift

[DevilOnWheelz]

Convince me

Why should i take a mazda 3 over a civic. what more does it offer.

isnt it a ford engine (aka crappy)

some people say its bad on gas.


what does it offer over a civic


and im talking 4dr automatic transmition daily driver.

ahaha ford engine crappy? this isn't a taurus or a tempo...

I guess you really don't know aobut the 4cyl zetec engines... :roll: or the duratec engines...

but yeah, civics have greeat engines right? you spend 129031 dollars to turbo and still run 14's

[wing]

Regarding the fuel mileage of the 3... well it's a 2.3L engine not a 1.8 that the Civic runs. So yeah you don't get civic mileage, but you don't get civic torque either.

I've read a few people complaining about the mileage in the 3 but honestly it is excellent for the size of the engine. It's a very large 4 cyl engine, they make larger, like Nissan has the 2.5 but that's still a large 4.

I average about 8.5L/100km or so, I'm happy with that.

[AzNKiD]

it's a 2.3L engine not a 1.8 that the Civic runs

There's also the 2.0L like mine.

[wing]

Yeah but nobody buys those with auto... right?

;)

[SilverTurtle]

Yeah but nobody buys those with auto... right?

;)


thats what im considering

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

okay 3rd time... why automatic?

[snowstang00]

We have 40,000 on it, and are on our 3rd set of rears. (They are showing the problem with less than 3000km)


JESUS, V8 mustangs with leadfooted drivers get more use out of tires then that :lol:

[SilverTurtle]

okay 3rd time... why automatic?

automatic is a luxery, why not.

im not racing, im not into performace, why bother with shifting.

plsu iv never owned a manual

[DVS Talon]

okay 3rd time... why automatic?

I don't know how to drive stnd

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

honestly turtle, if you are interested and willing to learn i will teach you on my winter ride this weekend.. sup to you

[DVS Talon]

1- Make sure car is in neutral
2- Push clutch in and start car
3- Keeping clutch in and shift into 1st gear
4- Still keeping clutch in step on gas until RPM's reach 7,000RPM
5- Take foot of clutch quickly
6- ???
7- Enjoy

[SilverTurtle]

honestly turtle, if you are interested and willing to learn i will teach you on my winter ride this weekend.. sup to you

Iv drivin other peoples manuals before, its not that hard, i just dont see the point. its a daily driver, mainly city driving, why bother shifting when i can have the luxery of an Automatic.

i know manual is better because u control when to shift, but im not racing, im not looking for speed. im looking for confort.

thanks for the offer though

[cvc2nv]

We have had problems with the rear wheels developing [what we think is] camber wear problems. The tires go out of round after only a few thousand km. We have 40,000 on it, and are on our 3rd set of rears. (They are showing the problem with less than 3000km)

Sounds like you're not the only one kerraz!

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0e3ded/49

excerpt:

#50 of 72 Re: 2006 Honda Civic vibrates and noisy at freeway speeds [baronep1] by mpan20 Jun 18, 2007 (3:36 am)
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Replying to: baronep1 (Jun 13, 2007 5:01 pm)

It sounds like the same problem with the camber on the rear tires. If you are behind your car looking at the rear tires do they look like are on an angle, tilted in at the top? If so, they wear excessively on the inside edge and cause a loud noise and vibration. Maybe if you're lucky your dealer will replace the tires if you bitch enough. I could only get my dealer to pay for one tire. I have 31,000 miles on my '06 and I'm almost in need of my 2nd tire purchase. I've already given up going back and forth with the dealer. Honda won't acknowledge this as a problem and they'll accept the fact that their customers have to buy tires every 20,000 miles or so. Guess it's Toyota for me next time.


More stories about the 2006+ Honda Civics "tires being out of round", "alignment problems", "rear tire camber wear" in the link.

[sebbs]

honestly turtle, if you are interested and willing to learn i will teach you on my winter ride this weekend.. sup to you

Iv drivin other peoples manuals before, its not that hard, i just dont see the point. its a daily driver, mainly city driving, why bother shifting when i can have the luxery of an Automatic.

i know manual is better because u control when to shift, but im not racing, im not looking for speed. im looking for confort.

thanks for the offer though

isnt a manual also better on gas?

[NTIMD8]

New Civics look like spaceships from the far way planet of Ooooogly.

LMFAO!

[OneHellofaFire]

And I was going to vote mazda over civic for the terrific pedal placement (heal/toe in the 3 is WAY better than most cars I've driven). That and don't they have LSD? My cousin's pulls dead straight, no wheel hop, corners like an elegant balet dancer for the weight of the vehicle... and you can play tricks on your friend by turning on their seat heaters in the summer, it's awesome!!!

But you're not in it for the sportyness, so you may as well go with a boring automatic civic and save on the insurance/gas??? The engine will last, and it will rust in 3 months, but who cares?

[JDM EG6]

Lovin my toyota :)

toyota/honda> mazda, sorry guys!


Its the truth and its been prooven year after year, Maybe with years to come mazda will shine more.

[Yodums]

isnt a manual also better on gas?

The gap in gas mileage between an automatic and manual transmission is minimal these days. http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/display ... leCode=M3S (http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsSpecs&vehicleCode=M3S)

There's like a 1 or 2 MPG difference.

[AzNKiD]

Its the truth and its been prooven year after year, Maybe with years to come mazda will shine more.

Mazda sales are up about 15% while Honda's down about 8%..

[Yodums]

Honda has actually been doing really well for themselves this year:

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49720

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37438

[AzNKiD]

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/fina ... f1ffdb1124 (http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=85388204-4d20-4dc4-ab17-e8f1ffdb1124)


Civic sales have fallen 20.2% so far this year over last year and its long lead in the rankings may be slipping.

[blu88notch]

Convince me

Why should i take a mazda 3 over a civic. what more does it offer.

isnt it a ford engine (aka crappy)

some people say its bad on gas.


what does it offer over a civic


and im talking 4dr automatic transmition daily driver.

ahaha ford engine crappy? this isn't a taurus or a tempo...

I guess you really don't know aobut the 4cyl zetec engines... :roll: or the duratec engines...



Exactly.
The import sackriding is getting in the way of accuracy.

[Tweaked]

I really fail to see why people bash ford, they make automotive history's top selling truck of all time and have a very good lineup of cars and SUV's. I've owned 3 Ford vehicles and still presently drive 2 of them. My chev's have been pretty good for the most part too as well as the Cutlass convertable I used to have, the wife drives a Mazda MX6 and infact the only cars I've ever really had complaints about were my CRX and my AE86.

okay 3rd time... why automatic?

automatic is a luxery,

you sound like a missionary position kinda guy.

if you wernt such a virgin.

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

I really fail to see why people bash ford, they make automotive history's top selling truck of all time and have a very good lineup of cars and SUV's. I've owned 3 Ford vehicles and still presently drive 2 of them. My chev's have been pretty good for the most part too as well as the Cutlass convertable I used to have, the wife drives a Mazda MX6 and infact the only cars I've ever really had complaints about were my CRX and my AE86.

ford has sold alot of cars, it just takes them 5 years to get a one right.. and when it's finally sound you know that they've cost cut on every possible part of the vehicle. Personally though I bash them for fit and finish and lack of sexiness

as for the mazda 3... the MPS version has lsd

[AWDGuy]

Convince me

Why should i take a mazda 3 over a civic. what more does it offer.

isnt it a ford engine (aka crappy)

some people say its bad on gas.


what does it offer over a civic


and im talking 4dr automatic transmition daily driver.

ahaha ford engine crappy? this isn't a taurus or a tempo...

I guess you really don't know aobut the 4cyl zetec engines... :roll: or the duratec engines...

but yeah, civics have greeat engines right? you spend 129031 dollars to turbo and still run 14's

I hear ya! :lol:

I wanna see the 1.8 give you this torque @ 9psi? Stock Ford 2.0 Zetec Engine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/Flofocus/Focus%20Pics/DSCF3157.jpg
(sorry, hard to read)

[GoGo240SR20]

walk into subaru

test drive 06-07 2.5i i guess you could try the 08's

sign papers and leave a happier person 8)

[kerraz]

Sounds like you're not the only one kerraz!

Thanks for the link, I will check into it out some more...

:!: BTW, everyone, the tires are wearing out after only 3000 km, our car is not the only one, a girl we work with has the same thing, :!:

[SilverTurtle]

i test drove the civic and the 3 yesterday

The civic, the interior is wicked, i loved the way it looked inside, the back end, not great (4 dr)

but

its like the 2002 i have, i floor it, it screems, it goes no where, you dont even feel the slightest jolt. the suspention is raw, you feel the bumps. and its LOUD on the highway. its like driving a new better looking interior 2002 civic.

the mazda 3, look nice outside, Interior, very pale. i am looking at the GS sports package. Pulls more then the civic, but still weak. suspention is stiffer then a civic, but somehow its more confortable. i love the tiptronic. the seating is nice.

what i dont like about it is the interior, and the fact that its a mazda.



decisions decisions. i think my problem is that i just test drove a charger and a 300. big diffrence between that and a civic/3.

maybe ill bite the bullet and pay 5 grand more and get a camry.

[E_Luder]

It sounds to me that your looking for something reliable and nothing more. I would start my search with Toyota or Honda and work from there. I personally own Honda's and they have done me no wrong but that doesn't mean that the new gens are flawless. My advice would be to look at body styles that have been out for a couple of years. This way you can see what peoples experiences are. Buying something in a new body style year could lead to unforseen problems like the new Civics rear tire issues which you don't want.

[AzNKiD]

As if you think the Civic's interior is nicer than the Mazda3's.. My mom has an 06 Civic, and I have an 04 Mazda3.. the Civic's interior is gross! Maybe you need to see them at night 8)

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

if the civic is too gutless for you, you should just try it in a damn stick shift! or just get the si

[SilverTurtle]

if the civic is too gutless for you, you should just try it in a damn stick shift! or just get the si


manual has the same power, why would it boot more

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

if floored from a stop not a huge difference but overall feel around town.. nothing is slower than an automatic civic.. standard you can downshift, or keep it revving and wind it out when you have to pass.. or whatever

also whoever stated its practically the same gas use in auto to manual that's b.s.. maybe on the highway. in a civic with no torque u can save alot of gas if u drive it carefully with a 5 speed

[Toms TSI]

I have a, 07 Mazda 3 GS Sport. Love it.

Owned an 03 Mazda P5. Traded it for the 3 and no warranty or any repair done in 4 years.

Owned a 1993 Mazda 626. One of the best cars I owned. 5 spd v6. Not fast but peppy and the best dam seats I ever sat in for comfort.

Also Mazda's have to have the best head lights out there of the non HID variety. All 3 cars I had were\are stooopid bright. Next car, whatever the 3 replacement is I am sure.

We looked at a Civic but took the 3 instead. With the 2.3L, lots of torque for around town. Keep your foot out of it, decent gas mileage also.

[mightymousetech]

how are these mazdas going to hold their value considering everyone has one?

Have you priced out a used Mazda3 recently......might as well buy a new one.

[nofatchickscarwillscrape]

how are these mazdas going to hold their value considering everyone has one?

Have you priced out a used Mazda3 recently......might as well buy a new one.


hmm that could go both ways though.. eitherway i'm not saying the won't keep value.. just asking WHY YOU GOT BEEF!?! RIGHT NOW IM ON THE EDGE!!

[Yodums]

Both, the Civic and 3 are holding their re-sale value quite well. I sold my 2006 Civic LX sedan and the dealership actually ended up selling it more than what I paid for it originally. Sad.

[styls255]

I used to drive nothing but civics and accords, and I bought a mazda 3 and it kills anything I have ever driven. For the people that say ford motor who cares, take care of your car and it will last.

[wing]

Mazda3 kills on price. 0% lease rates and finance rates. Where as the Civic is what 7%?

[Smirk]

coming from a previous mazda3 owner, id say go for it.

im currently driving an 07 sentra 2.0s and i was debating against a 07 civic (whichever model is in the same class) and something about the civic just didnt do it for me.

plus, that "HUD" for the spedometer drives me nuts.