Rack n pignon + xxxx oil (step inside please)

[Simpo]

ok so i removed my power steering pump, blocked the fitting!! BUT we've decided to put some oil in the rack.. just enough to lube, not too much to jam the steering wheel.

BUT

we didnt have any power steering oil like usual .. we put some Amzoil 2 stroke engine oil (yeahh i know..)

was it a bad solution or a freaking bad solution? let me know

[blackfoot]

if your using the stock powersteering rack, it needs to be vented!!

also the best thing to do was route your line to the reservoir and back to each other. the reservoir itself acts like a vent. to disapate gases..

also NEVER USE motor oil or any other oil other than whats recomended

and its usually automatic transmission fluid, or a specific mineral oil.. and in your case you should be using ATF!


i hope your rack doesnt get jammed because it wont see the proper lubrication

Blackfoot,

What about making a short piece of tube, that connects directly from the pressure side to the return side of the rack? I suppose you would need to get all the bubbles out, but if you could fill that small system with power steering fluid, it would keep the power assist pistons lubed properly just as normal. Would that work?

Jim

[blackfoot]

it should work in theory, but the key deal here is keeping the system vented.. so gases emited from the oil gets released and not built up in the rack..

which is why i recomend keeping the reservoir inline with both pressure and return lines.. the reservoir acts like the vent

[Simpo]

cars are cool but im getting sick and tired of that project :evil:

I had no idea there was some off-gassing as the hydraulic fluid degrades over time - do you know what causes this?

With that in mind, I agree I think your resevoir idea is the best bet. What about building a really small one that sits on top of the rack?

Is all this for the purpose of going to a manual steering system, Simon? What about changing the rack for a full-manual type? You might even have a choice of steering ratios then.

Jim

[blackfoot]

for the EG style civics, there is the manual steering rack option, and well it is a different ratio to help with steering at low speeds,

a powerrack thats not functional, is jsut a bit harder to steer, but not much...


and what causes the gases, is fluid being forced in different direction, and stirring alone while driving

its what i learned in school anyways

[Simpo]

yeah changing to a manual rack would be the best idea for me, finding one might be pain in the cul

im jam packed with stuff to do on this car lol, civichatch from Evo Tuning is helping me today, hopefully we'll be able to finish everything to fire that engine today!!!!

zc vtec, si tranny, fidanza flywheel exedy clutch. if my msd is still good, ill have a msd ignition thing there!! enough to have fun for now :)

ill keep you guys updated!!

Sounds like a big project, keep us posted!

Does the MSD box fire through the distributor, or will you be dizzy-less as they say?

[Simpo]

Well i havent installed the msd yet, because my neighbour gave it to me, he told me to install it after the engine ran, to make sure the msd is not defect!!

car fired up tonight. but! the idle was smooth, while giving gas, the rev wasnt constant so we tried to unplugg different connectors on the intake mani etc, we restarted the car like 15 times, everything was cool until ... now the car wont start, looks like we dont have fire! (well, we dont have fire)

o2 is unplugged because i need a longer wire (dc header, the o2 is too far to reach the plug .. anyways..)

engine light is on, we checked the code, CODE 6 : ECT : broke or unplugged

thats the only code we have for now.. the car wont start, it ran for 30 min before we shut it down, and now there's nothing!

help?

Hmm, well the unplugged O2 might be part of it.

During start up, the system is in open-loop warm up mode, and after a while it goes into closed-loop, where it looks to the O2 for feedback.

It could be that when the system tries to look for the O2 and can't find it, it looses mixture control to the point of stalling. Usually there's a 'limp home' fuel map that is employed to keep the car going, but it could be that you don't have this feature.

Jim

[Simpo]

dude you're a genious!

we've talked about the open and close loop programation in the ecu tonight.

probably we have burnt the dissy after starting it all those times! my friend COCO is bringing one to me tomorrow to test the shit out :)

i'll let you guys know!

im kinda sad everything wasn't a1 done tonight, but i've heard it run for 30 min and i have hope in this mini me :)

zc block, z6 head, arp headstuds, fidanza 7.5lbs, exedy clutch, msd ignition (if its still good) in an eg :) 10.x:1 compression

im building this as a touge setup, low budget setup but still enough to have fun :) its all what matters!